Cynnwys
Contents

3....... Cyflwyniad, Ymddiheuriadau, Dirprwyon a Datganiadau o Fuddiant Introduction, Apologies, Substitutions and Declarations of Interest

4....... Offerynnau nad ydynt yn Cynnwys Unrhyw Faterion i’w Codi o dan Reol Sefydlog 21.2 neu 21.3 Instruments that Raise No Reporting Issues under Standing Order 21.2 or 21.

4....... Papurau i’w Nodi
Papers to Note

5....... Cynnig o dan Reol Sefydlog 17.42 i Benderfynu Gwahardd y Cyhoedd o’r Cyfarfod
Motion under Standing Order 17.42 to Resolve to Exclude the Public from the Meeting

Cofnodir y trafodion yn yr iaith y llefarwyd hwy ynddi yn y pwyllgor. Yn ogystal, cynhwysir trawsgrifiad o’r cyfieithu ar y pryd. Lle mae cyfranwyr wedi darparu cywiriadau i’w tystiolaeth, nodir y rheini yn y trawsgrifiad.

The proceedings are reported in the language in which they were spoken in the committee. In addition, a transcription of the simultaneous interpretation is included. Where contributors have supplied corrections to their evidence, these are noted in the transcript.

Aelodau’r pwyllgor yn bresennol
Committee members in attendance

Huw Irranca-Davies
Bywgraffiad|Biography

Llafur (Cadeirydd y Pwyllgor)
Labour (Committee Chair)

Dai Lloyd
Bywgraffiad|Biography

Plaid Cymru
The Party of Wales

David Melding
Bywgraffiad|Biography

Ceidwadwyr Cymreig
Welsh Conservatives

Swyddogion Cynulliad Cenedlaethol Cymru yn bresennol
National Assembly for Wales officials in attendance

Siân Giddins

Dirprwy Glerc
Deputy Clerk

Gareth Howells

Cynghorydd Cyfreithiol
Legal Adviser

Naomi Stocks

Ail Glerc

Second Clerk

Dr Alys Thomas

Y Gwasanaeth Ymchwil
Research Service

Gareth Williams

Clerc
Clerk

Dechreuodd y cyfarfod am 15:33.
The meeting began at 15:33.

Cyflwyniad, Ymddiheuriadau, Dirprwyon a Datganiadau o Fuddiant
Introduction, Apologies, Substitutions and Declarations of Interest

[1] Huw Irranca-Davies: Good afternoon. Welcome to the Constitutional and Legislative Affairs Committee’s meeting today, on Monday 12 December 2016. As per normal, there’s bilingual translation available. We’re familiar with all the housekeeping issues of switching mobiles off, where the fire exits are, and all of that. We have apologies from Dafydd Elis-Thomas and from Nathan Gill, but no other apologies. We don’t have substitutes for them today.

15:33

Offerynnau nad ydynt yn Cynnwys Unrhyw Faterion i’w Codi o dan Reol Sefydlog 21.2 neu 21.3
Instruments that Raise No Reporting Issues under Standing Order 21.2 or 21.3

[2] Huw Irranca-Davies: If we can move on to item No. 2, where we have instruments that raise no reporting issues under Standing Order 21.2 or 21.3. Under paper No. 1, we have a statutory instrument with a clear report. It’s on negative resolution instruments SL(5)040, the Religious Character of Schools (Designation Procedure) (Wales) Regulations 2016, and SL(5)041, the Non-Domestic Rating Contributions (Wales) (Amendment) Regulations 2016. Do we have any comments from Members on those? I don’t think we have any observations from our officials. So, are we happy to note those? Okay. Those SIs can be noted.

15:34

Papurau i’w Nodi
Papers to Note

[3] Huw Irranca-Davies: If we move on, then, to item No. 3, we have papers to note. First of all, under paper No. 2, we have the report by the House of Commons Public Administration and Constitutional Affairs Committee, ‘The Future of the Union, part two: Inter-institutional relations in the UK’.

[4] If I could invite Members to note that report, and you’ll know the synchronicity of this with, perhaps, some of our deliberations at the moment. Members will wish to note that, in paragraph 96, the PACAC support amending Standing Orders at Westminster to allow all committees of the House to hold joint meetings with committees of the devolved legislatures, amongst other interesting parts of that report. So, perhaps we’re swimming with the tide here on this particular one. So, we note that report.

15:35

Cynnig o dan Reol Sefydlog 17.42 i Benderfynu Gwahardd y Cyhoedd o’r Cyfarfod
Motion under Standing Order 17.42 to Resolve to Exclude the Public from the Meeting

Cynnig:

Motion:

bod y pwyllgor yn penderfynu gwahardd y cyhoedd o weddill y cyfarfod yn unol â Rheol Sefydlog 17.42(ix).

that the committee resolves to exclude the public from the remainder of the meeting in accordance with Standing Order 17.42(ix).

Cynigiwyd y cynnig.
Motion moved.

[5] Huw Irranca-Davies: We move, then, on to item No. 4, having gone through those business items quite quickly. I would suggest that, under Standing Order 17.42(ix), we actually move to exclude the public from the remainder of the meeting and move into private session? Are you content with that?

[6] David Melding: Agreed.

[7] Dai Lloyd: Bodlon.

Dai Lloyd: Content.

[8] Huw Irranca-Davies: Thank you. We move into private session.

Derbyniwyd y cynnig.
Motion agreed.

Daeth rhan gyhoeddus y cyfarfod i ben am 15:36.
The public part of the meeting ended at 15:36.